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PER Race Engines
02-02-2005, 02:32 PM
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Kirk
02-02-2005, 02:37 PM
Looks great!
quietflow
02-02-2005, 02:54 PM
WOW, very cool!!!!
Want Notch
02-02-2005, 03:12 PM
I can't wait to see that thing run!
flyin_hawaiin
02-02-2005, 03:25 PM
looking good randy...

good luck to you and tony!
90ramair
02-02-2005, 03:42 PM
Agggagg...(drip, drip)...Im drooling all over my keyboard! :rockon:
PER Race Engines
02-02-2005, 03:53 PM
thanks Bob , if things go well we will see you in fla. Thanks again
Greg@GLD
02-02-2005, 04:44 PM
I thought that was Dave's car for some reason...
SuperSonic
02-02-2005, 04:47 PM
Wow, very, very nice!!!
scooter
02-02-2005, 06:28 PM
there is going to be some awsome looking 05s running this year
looks good cant wiat to make it to some big races this year
scott
1slo5.0
02-02-2005, 06:33 PM
That is wild!!!!! :thumbs_up
67stang
02-02-2005, 07:00 PM
Very Nice....Gotta love the 05's!!! :D
Mark302
02-02-2005, 08:39 PM
That is so cool!!! I also thought it was Dave. I think it is the PER thing.
NO CHANCE
02-02-2005, 08:46 PM
I thought that was Dave's car for some reason...

Nope this is the Shop car for PER Race Engines (Renegade). Dave's car is up at www.teamzmotorsports.net and headed to another class.

http://www.hardcore50.com/Articles/JasonReiss/BandtRacing/BandtRacing1.htm
Kool Rock Steady
02-02-2005, 09:12 PM
What size motor. Will it be @ WFC?
NO CHANCE
02-02-2005, 10:06 PM
What size motor. Will it be @ WFC?

The PER car is a 5.4 based N20 combo, taking advantage of some great weight breaks in the class.

Can't really speak for their schedule, the REN payouts at WFC have historically been low, so very few of the National NMRA REN cars come out to this event. I know they plan to try and make Fla. NMRA, event 1 for 2005.
DirtyMax
02-02-2005, 10:32 PM
2 seats and 2 bottles... :worshippy
Kool Rock Steady
02-03-2005, 07:39 AM
The PER car is a 5.4 based N20 combo, taking advantage of some great weight breaks in the class.


I could be wrong but aren't most REN cars smaller then 5.4?
SLOWZ
02-03-2005, 12:29 PM
Holy SH!T!!!!

For Sale: 1999 Z28

Thank god we have a Ford store in the Braeger Franchises.
NitrousEdge
02-03-2005, 12:38 PM
I could be wrong but aren't most REN cars smaller then 5.4?

Its a Modular 5.4 - not a pushrod motor...
PER Race Engines
02-03-2005, 05:59 PM
well we put a big bore kit in it so it's a 358 cid and running dohc heads from 03 nav well i said to much already we'll see if it works on the dyno
NitrousEdge
02-03-2005, 07:01 PM
well we put a big bore kit in it so it's a 358 cid and running dohc heads from 03 nav well i said to much already we'll see if it works on the dyno

OK i'm sold - - big bore and nitrous!!! I NEED more info!!!
FAST? electronics??? Oh good Lord, its my dream car! :rockon:

:greg:
Kool Rock Steady
02-03-2005, 09:35 PM
Its a Modular 5.4 - not a pushrod motor...

Modular or not it comes out to what 331'ish. I thought most REN engines were smaller than that. Out of couriosity why would a bigger engine get weight breaks? I would think navi heads flow a lot of air too. Just wondering
SLOWZ
02-04-2005, 12:51 AM
i think since it's a nitrous car, they are taking advantage of the weight break THAT power adder has over the s/c and turbo cars, so they CAN run a bigger engine to even them up with a forced induction setup
Shane97Cobra
02-04-2005, 07:53 AM
Modular or not it comes out to what 331'ish. I thought most REN engines were smaller than that. Out of couriosity why would a bigger engine get weight breaks? I would think navi heads flow a lot of air too. Just wondering

Most of the REN blower cars are smaller, most using 306ci, I think Josh has a bigger CI motor. But most the N2O cars use bigger cubic inches.

The small cube modular (4.6L) can weigh like 2600# this year, which is damn near impossible to get to that weight, might as well take those extra inches.
PER Race Engines
02-04-2005, 01:05 PM
5.4 with big bore kit (3.7 bore) and stroke 4.165 =358 cid
dave bandt
02-05-2005, 11:37 AM
Lookin good Randy!!! Good luck in 05. I'll be rooting for ya.
drag79stang
02-06-2005, 03:14 PM
Awesome looking car! (I also thought it was Daves car)..............
PER Race Engines
02-15-2005, 07:44 AM
check out more pic's at www.per-race-engines.com
Overdrive
02-25-2005, 01:22 PM
did you go to that site? Oh that car is going to be so ******. Orange ....... SHHHHWWWWEEEEEEEEEEETTTTTT.
Jesse James
02-25-2005, 08:07 PM
Awesome! Hogged out 5.4 with Navi heads and juice.... can anyone guess 1,000 hp?!!!
97_cobra_97
03-01-2005, 09:45 PM
that looks sweet man; i don't know if i could buy an 05 and strip it down like that so soon, no matter how fast it would be.
dave bandt
03-02-2005, 10:02 AM
that looks sweet man; i don't know if i could buy an 05 and strip it down like that so soon, no matter how fast it would be.


That's why you start with a body-in-white shell and build from there. In the long run it's actually a lot less work to do it that way.
Tim
03-02-2005, 10:16 AM
Awesome! Hogged out 5.4 with Navi heads and juice.... can anyone guess 1,000 hp?!!!

That would be nice for them, since I think most of the renegade cars make somewhere in the 800s hp range or am I mistaken?
flyin_hawaiin
03-02-2005, 11:36 AM
That would be nice for them, since I think most of the renegade cars make somewhere in the 800s hp range or am I mistaken?

you are mistaken
NO CHANCE
03-02-2005, 03:15 PM
That would be nice for them, since I think most of the renegade cars make somewhere in the 800s hp range or am I mistaken?

Just the slow ones... :D
swilldup
03-03-2005, 05:20 PM
Just the slow ones... :D

like ours....
Tim
03-04-2005, 12:50 PM
you are mistaken

What kind of power do they make? roughly.
flyin_hawaiin
03-04-2005, 01:34 PM
What kind of power do they make? roughly.

most are about 1000 at the flywheel.. some more, some less..
Tim
03-04-2005, 02:14 PM
most are about 1000 at the flywheel.. some more, some less..


No kidding.

So I guess the drivetrain loss is less than conventional automatics then. Wouldn't 20% drivetrain loss put them in the 800's RWHP?

I am not trying to be a smart ass so don't take it that way. Just trying to learn something.
:burnout:
markstang
03-04-2005, 03:15 PM
race cars should be alot more efficient..... my car was right around 11% loss at the wheels last year.
flyin_hawaiin
03-04-2005, 03:27 PM
No kidding.

So I guess the drivetrain loss is less than conventional automatics then. Wouldn't 20% drivetrain loss put them in the 800's RWHP?

I am not trying to be a smart ass so don't take it that way. Just trying to learn something.
:burnout:

yes, but you never said 800rwhp.. you said 800hp..

actually, drive train loss is more like 22%+ as we have 6500stall converters..
Tim
03-04-2005, 04:49 PM
yes, but you never said 800rwhp.. you said 800hp..

actually, drive train loss is more like 22%+ as we have 6500stall converters..

Yeah, my bad, I didn't even realize. I usually just assume RWHP when talking about those things.

Thanks