For everyone with Boost

[Nick 1]

How much boost are you using with your combo ?????

What are the #'s to the rear tires ????

Are you running on pump gas ???



Thanks All

[Greg@GLD]

How much boost are you using with your combo ????? 11 PSI

What are the #'s to the rear tires ???? 502/500

Are you running on pump gas ??? Yes, 93

[Nick 1]

Thanks Greg ........ :beer:


Anyone else ??????

[SMOKD U]

last year

16 psi boost
methanol injection 100%
93 octane and 1 can Torco race boost
street driven.

I would have light knock unless I had Torco in. I tuned it to the edge of a stock block and lost. :thud:

this year looking for 15+ psi boost

meth injection
93 octane
would like to see 500+ to the rear wheels or 10's in the 1/4

i would get injectors to handle boost and a good tuning method. fuel most important with more boost. 11.5 to 11.9 A/F at WOT

[Kool Rock Steady]

I only made 6#'s boost with 93 octane and made close to 500 rwhp. I bet I could have made 500 too

[Nick 1]

Thanks Mark & Larry :thumbs_up

[trw89gt]

I am planning on running 9lbs on my combo
Dont have any numbers yet but some estimates
Will be street driven and on 93 ocatane

[NO CHANCE]

25#'s...

likely 650rwhp, give or take a few.

C16 fuel.

[Mark302]

6lbs
400+ rwhp
Sometimes a race gas mix and sometimes just 93 octane.

I was running a boost retard and with 6lbs of boost I don't think I needed race gas but I used it when I could get it.

[BlackLX]

6 lbs
?? Horsepower -- need dyno time
93 octain.

[quietflow]

Nico what are you up to?

[Kool Rock Steady]

I'd be interested to see what some of the REN guys can run on 93? If they have ever dyno'd with 93 gas. I hope 600+ rwhp

[Shane97Cobra]

I'd be interested to see what some of the REN guys can run on 93? If they have ever dyno'd with 93 gas. I hope 600+ rwhp

Don't think you will ever get to see such a thing one a true renegade motor. Just not worth the risk. Those blowers are generating a ton of heat and they run pretty stout compression for a motor seeing 30# of boost. So that combination w/o an intercooler is not going to work on 93. Not to say you coundn't run very little timing and make it work, but don't think you will see any of the REN guys risk their money just to try it.

[flyin_hawaiin]

Don't think you will ever get to see such a thing one a true renegade motor. Just not worth the risk. Those blowers are generating a ton of heat and they run pretty stout compression for a motor seeing 30# of boost. So that combination w/o an intercooler is not going to work on 93.

shane, you are correct in your first statement about us not wanting to try 93 and generating alot of heat, but as far as compression goes, a few of us are low 8 to 1 compression..

thanks

[Dynotune]

33lb@ 7,700 rpms crossing the finishing line
29lb@ 7,200 rpms shift point
C-16
860 rwh @ 7,200 rpms
8.62@159.13 with a 1.31 60' 5.57 1/8@130

[Kool Rock Steady]

Nice #'s. Bob,Mike I'm sure you guys could make 600 on 93. Less boost of course. Just trying to see a Ford do that. Speed inc. has a red LT1 making 600+ on 93 with turbo's.

I know Ronnie Rice's old car did that no problem and drove it every day. 351 2xturbo

[86merc]

I saw 14# on the data logger, it made 513/493 on 93.

Larry, I think most of the supercharger guys on this site do not have intercoolers. I guarentee the turbo cars you mentioned had them. That is a big help when trying to make power on 93.

I have been looking into intercooling my Vortech but it will not be cheap or easy. No one has made a intercooler kit for a fox body/Vortech combo in years. So fabbing on is my only option at this point. The more I look at it I think a water/alcohol kit will make it's way on the car. It is a much easier install and a lot cheaper. Then I think I will have no problem with 600+rwhp on 93.

[Kool Rock Steady]

600 is a sweet # for a street car on 93

Mike,Greg how afraid are you guys going to the track with your stock block and parts? We all make close to the same power to the tire. This is why I won't change the boost level. I have been afraid of breaking parts but I'm gonna go to the track a lot this year. You both have a sfi balancer right? I need one before I go..lol

I have not looked into the water/alc inj since it would be a joke with my boost level but what does it do to let you know you are low? I know that my buddy runs washer fluid in his. I guess just check it every time before you go out

[86merc]

My tune is real safe so I wouldn't worry too much. But it would be in the back of my mind all the time. I already have great internal parts in my motor. I plan on changing them over into a Dart sportsman block very shortly. That way I can make more power and not have to worry about the stock block.

[86merc]

I have not looked into the water/alc inj since it would be a joke with my boost level but what does it do to let you know you are low? I know that my buddy runs washer fluid in his. I guess just check it every time before you go out

It depends on the kit. Some kits have a level sending unit in the bottle and a low level light inside the car.

[Kool Rock Steady]

Here is a video from Speed inc. Go to about 5:50 min then watch the rest. 1st part is some footage of Chicago World Of Wheels

http://boss.streamos.com/wmedia/scandracing/winmedia/sin5_300.wvx

[Greg@GLD]

600 is a sweet # for a street car on 93

Mike,Greg how afraid are you guys going to the track with your stock block and parts? We all make close to the same power to the tire. This is why I won't change the boost level. I have been afraid of breaking parts but I'm gonna go to the track a lot this year. You both have a sfi balancer right? I need one before I go..lol

I have not looked into the water/alc inj since it would be a joke with my boost level but what does it do to let you know you are low? I know that my buddy runs washer fluid in his. I guess just check it every time before you go out

I have a forged bottom end with a stock block. I have hot-lapped my car many, many times, have gone as many as 20 passes in one day with the blower.
As for the HP level, my tune is VERY conservative, in fact Bob felt he could get quite a bit more out of it but I wanted to stop when we got to 502 RWHP. I have no desire to kick it up either, I like having things right where they are; safe and reliable and FUN. :burnout:
I would consider getting a boost cooler system and perhaps advancing the timing, but 500 horses at the wheels is already pushing it IMHO.

FYI, I run about 19 degrees total advance under full boost.

[67stang]

How much boost are you using with your combo ?????

What are the #'s to the rear tires ????

Are you running on pump gas ???



Thanks All

26 lbs with 11.75-1 comp.

Alot

No, running methanol.

[swilldup]

32# boost.....800 plus horsepower.....on c-16....

[Kool Rock Steady]

Hey you REN racers. It seems the YSI is the thing to have but is the novi 2k outdated or wasn't there a few restrictions with that blower? Anyone still running a novi and being competitive?

[Nick 1]

Nico what are you up to?

Nothing...................Honest :p

Thanks Bob, Mike, Dale, Shane, Mike, Larry, Greg, Jerry & anyone else who I may have forgot.

Great info. :banana:

[gs400]

Dynoed 548 RWHP and 518 RWTQ on 93 pump gas at 8 psi on a 331 with a Procharger P1SC and 3 core intercooler. Ran 32 degrees total timing out of boost and took out 1-2 degrees for each lb. Ran roughly 21-23 degrees total timing at WOT in boost. ON a 60 degree day saw 93 degree inlet temps through the Procharger intercooler. On a 80+ degree day saw inlet temps of 130-145 at 8 psi.
Hope this helps... I would take an intercooled Procharger over the MOST effiecient non intercooled Vortech/Paxton any day of the week, twice on sundays for a street car IMHO! Renegade is a different story...

Sebastian

[Greg@GLD]

Dynoed 548 RWHP and 518 RWTQ on 93 pump gas at 8 psi on a 331 with a Procharger P1SC and 3 core intercooler. Ran 32 degrees total timing out of boost and took out 1-2 degrees for each lb. Ran roughly 21-23 degrees total timing at WOT in boost. ON a 60 degree day saw 93 degree inlet temps through the Procharger intercooler. On a 80+ degree day saw inlet temps of 130-145 at 8 psi.
Hope this helps... I would take an intercooled Procharger over the MOST effiecient non intercooled Vortech/Paxton any day of the week, twice on sundays for a street car IMHO! Renegade is a different story...

Sebastian

Glad you like your Procharger. I'm guessing you don't own a '94-'95 car though. The procharger kit for my year is not very intuitive, is a major-league pain in the ass to install, and frankly, intercooler or not, I haven't seen anyone who has installed one on a '94-'95 car end up with results that are any better than a hot-air Vortech. Having to re-locate your battery to the trunk by force rather than choice sucks, having the K/N mounted directly over the top of the hot driver-side header and adding the weight of the intercooler over the front end are all negatives. In fact, a friend who had one, actually ran better, made more boost and more MPH by bypassing the whole intercooler setup. It's one of those "on paper it looks good" deals. You would think that by having the intercooler, you could run more timing and make more power. But the intercooler creates a pressure drop and the gains are offset by the disruption to flow. At least on a SN95 car. The "blow-thru-the-mass air" deal has also resulted in drivability issues for SN95 owners as well.

[ChargedBlack03]

How much boost are you using with your combo ????? 13lbs

What are the #'s to the rear tires ???? 485 rwhp

Are you running on pump gas ??? Yes/93

[Mark302]

Wow Pete!!! That is alot! Is that a Lighting pulley?

[TheRealStubot]

Currently running 12-14#

435 to the wheels @ 10# boost ( no numbers with the new pulley arrangement )

Running on California 91 octane CRAP GAS!

I also run a Crane HI6-TR with boost retard. It's currently set at about 10 degrees out at 10psi. My car has never run perfectly though, I have some issues with it leaning out after gear changes ( EGR? ) for like a second where it stumbles then it hits hard and runs rich up to redline. This condition has me pretty spooked, so I don't push it often.

[ChargedBlack03]

Wow Pete!!! That is alot! Is that a Lighting pulley?

2.93 upper, and stock bottom. I still have to install the gauge to know for sure, but the pulley is good for about 4 to 5 lbs:)

The power is just an estimate, at WFC 7 I had the car dyno at 461 rwhp SAE, with the stock pulley, after posting the results on MD and the dyno, I got flamed hard. So maybe I will try to make it out to P Plus's dyno day and see how much the car is making.