Frequently asked newbie questions

[SLOWZ]

I really don't feel like loading up this message board with mindless, simple questions that all of YOU guys know and I'm sure you don't want to see them repeated. The question is, anyone have a hyperlink to a Mustang FAQ? Just something that lists some free mods and maybe some specification of the differences between years? I was searching the corral.net classifieds, but that's the later stuff ;) Any help is greatly appreciated!

Chris

[Kirk]

Chris,

Ask away that's we are all here.

[dufkis]

LOL at first I thought the title of the post was FAG not FAQ. Anywho, ask away thats why we are here.

[Al_]

LOL at first I thought the title of the post was FAG not FAQ. Anywho, ask away thats why we are here.
Ditto!

I was expecting a rant thread!

[SLOWZ]

I posted it all caps i coulda sworn, but when it showed up, i thought the same thing, hahaha. sorry guys :)

[NO CHANCE]

The search function on the Corral, hours of reading pleasure.

[fivonut]

An actual FAQ may not be a bad idea. I know everyone here is more then willing to share knowledge and offer advice when asked but sometimes people are inpatient and want an answer now. Could also save time with first timers threads asking "silly" questions. We could even have everyone here post or PM Q's and A's that could be put together into a FAQ. Maybe even add links to sites that offer tech tips.

[SLOWZ]

yeah, i mean all the simple little stuff. Isn't there an advanced timing trick to do? maybe even a parts list of good stuff to use for tune-ups? First time i've ever gone into Autozone and NOT known spark plug part numbers, ahha. The LS1's have a TON of free mods able to be done. the corral seems to be one of the best sites to visit and a ton of info like suggested in a previous post. gonna be awhile before anything really happens with it. :)

[Mark302]

Take off the silencer, put the timing to 14*, set the TPS to .980, port the mass air(if it has), take out the spare and jack, cut out the bottom of the stock air box, Those are the 100% free things.

[SLOWZ]

Now any DIY articles on HOW to set the TPS and the 14* timing. i remember the timing thing and about pulling that plug before setting it. The TPS thing I don't know about. Probably find in a search on corral?

Chris

[dufkis]

Now any DIY articles on HOW to set the TPS and the 14* timing. i remember the timing thing and about pulling that plug before setting it. The TPS thing I don't know about. Probably find in a search on corral?

Chris

Here you go Chris, I wrote up how to advance the timing for ya:
http://ilmustangs.com/timing.htm

*If I left out anything please let me know and I will fix it*

[SLOWZ]

AWESOME!!! Thanks! Now how about the TPS stuff? haha.

Thanks to whoever changed the title of this post! :)

[MAT88GT]

TIP
From: Samuel Bertram
E-Mail: samuel.bertram@METC.STATE.MN.US Date: 12-May-1998
The rec.autos.makers.ford.mustang 3rd-Gen FAQ
(this file created 3 April 1998)
author: David Lyons
coded in html: LeAnne Davis

Introduction
Engines
****************************1979****************** **********
Cyl disp carb HP FT-LB Code
4 140 2V 88 N/A Y
4 140 2V 132 (Turbo) N/A W
6 170 2V 109 N/A Z
6 200 1V 85 N/A T
8 302 2V 140@3600 250@1800 F

****************************1980****************** **********
Cyl disp carb HP FT-LB Code
4 140 2V 88(MT)/90(AT) N/A A
4 140 2V N/A(Turbo) N/A W
6 200 1V 91(MT)/94(AT) N/A B
8 255 2V 118@3200 193@2200 D

****************************1981****************** **********
Cyl disp carb HP FT-LB Code
4 140 2V 88 N/A A
6 200 1V 94 N/A B
8 255 2V 115@3400 195@2200 D
8 255 2V 120@3400 205@2200 D

****************************1982****************** **********
Cyl disp carb HP FT-LB Code
4 140 2V 88 N/A A
6 200 1V 94 N/A B
8 255 2V 111@3400 194@1600 D
8 302 2V 157@4200 240@2400 F

****************************1983****************** **********
Cyl disp carb HP FT-LB Code
4 2.3L 1V 88 N/A A
4 2.3L turbo 145@4600 180@3600 T
6 3.8L 2V 112 N/A 3
8 302 4V 175@4200 245@2400 M

****************************1984****************** **********
Cyl disp carb HP FT-LB Code
4 2.3L 1V 88 N/A A
4 2.3L turbo 145@4600 180@3600 T(GT)
4 2.3L turbo 175@5000 210@3000 W(SVO)
6 3.8L EFI 120 N/A 3
8 302 CFI 165@3800 245@2000 F
8 302 4V 175@4200 245@2400 M

****************************1985****************** **********
Cyl disp carb HP FT-LB Code
4 2.3L 1V 88 N/A A
4 2.3L turbo 175@5000 210@3000 W(SVO)
6 3.8L EFI 120 N/A 3
8 302 CFI 180@4200 260@2600 M(AT)
8 302 4V 210@4400 270@3200 M(MT)

****************************1985ø***************** **********
Cyl disp carb HP FT-LB Code
4 2.3L turbo 205@5000 248@3000 W(SVO)

****************************1986****************** **********
Cyl disp carb HP FT-LB Code
4 2.3L 1V 88 N/A S
4 2.3L turbo 200@5000 240@3000 W(SVO)
6 3.8L EFI 120 N/A 3
8 302 EFI 200@4000 285@3000 M

****************************1987****************** **********
Cyl disp carb HP FT-LB Code
4 2.3L 1V 88 N/A S
8 302 EFI 225@4200 300@3200 M

****************************1988****************** **********
Cyl disp carb HP FT-LB Code
4 2.3L 1V 88 N/A S
8 302 EFI 225@4200 300@3200 N/A

****************************1989****************** **********
Cyl disp carb HP FT-LB Code
4 2.3L 1V 88 N/A S
8 302 EFI 225@4200 300@3200 N/A

****************************1990****************** **********
Cyl disp carb HP FT-LB Code
4 2.3L 1V 88 N/A S
8 302 EFI 225@4200 300@3200 N/A

****************************1991****************** **********
Cyl disp carb HP FT-LB Code
8 302 EFI 225@4200 300@3200 N/A

****************************1992****************** **********
Cyl disp carb HP FT-LB Code
8 302 EFI 225@4200 300@3200 N/A

****************************1993****************** **********
Cyl disp carb HP FT-LB Code
8 302 EFI 205@4200 275@3200 N/A
8 302 EFI 235@4600 280@4000 N/A


Production Numbers
*****************1979******************
Notchback 143,382
Hatchback 108,758
Ghia Notchback 48,788
Ghia Hatchback 31,097
Mustang Pace Car Replica 11,000
All 5.0L 47,568
TOTAL: 369,936
*****************1980******************
Notchback 117,015
Hatchback 86,569
Ghia Notchback 20,288
Ghia Hatchback 17,192
TOTAL: 241,064/271,322 Conflicting data from 2 sources
*****************1981******************
Notchback 69,994
Hatchback 68,111
Ghia Notchback 11,991
Ghia Hatchback 12,497
TOTAL: 162,059/182,552 Conflicting data from 2 sources
*****************1982******************
Notchback N/A
Hatchback N/A
L/LG Notchback 45,316
GLX Notchback 5,828
GL Hatchback 45,901
GLX Hatchback 9,926
GT Hatchback 23,447
non GT 5.0L 4,656
GT 24,799
TOTAL: 130,418
*****************1983******************
Notchback 33,201
Hatchback N/A
L/LG Notchback N/A
GLX Notchback N/A
GL Hatchback N/A
GLX Hatchback N/A
GT Hatchback 26,656
non GT 5.0L 7,891
GT (turbo 4) 604
GT convertible 1001
Convertible (all) 23,438
All 5.0L 35,540
TOTAL: 120,873
*****************1984******************
Notchback 37,680
Hatchback 86,200
L/GL Notchback N/A
GT Hatchback 26,658
non GT 5.0L 5,280
GT (turbo 4) 3,798
GT convertible 6,256
Convertible (all) 17,600
All 5.0L 38,194
SVO (US) 4258
SVO (Canadian) 250
TOTAL: 141,480
*****************1985******************
Notchback 56,781
Hatchback 84,623
GT hatchback 36,879
non GT 5.0L 6,326
GT 42,428
GT convertible 5,549
Convertible (all) 15,110
All 5.0L 48,754
SVO (US) 1496
SVO (Canadian) 19
TOTAL: 156,514
*****************1985******************
SVO (US) 428
SVO (Canadian) 11
*****************1986******************
Notchback (all) 106,720
Hatchback (all) 117,690
Convertible (all) 22,946
LX 5.0L 6,674
GT hatch 40,578
GT convertible 9,887
All 5.0L 57,139
SVO (US) 2906
SVO (Canadian) 476
TOTAL: 224,410
*****************1987******************
Notchback (all) 64,704
Hatchback (all) 94,441
Convertible (all) 21,447
LX 5.0L 16,609
GT hatch 47,539
GT convertible 10,451
All 5.0L 64,148
TOTAL: 159,145
*****************1988******************
Notchback (all) N/A
Hatchback (all) N/A
Convertible (all) N/A
LX 5.0L 30,877
GT hatch 50,294
GT convertible 18,174
All 5.0L 99,345
TOTAL: 211,225
*****************1989******************
Notchback (all) N/A
Hatchback (all) N/A
Convertible (all) 42,244
LX 5.0L 45,876
GT 59,701
All 5.0L 105,577
TOTAL: 209,769
*****************1990******************
Notchback (all) N/A
Hatchback (all) N/A
Convertible (all) 26,958
LX 5.0L 44,851
GT 34,435
All 5.0L 79,286
TOTAL: 128,189
*****************1991******************
Notchback (all) N/A
Hatchback (all) N/A
Convertible (all) 21,513
LX 5.0L 27,880
GT 24,428
All 5.0L 52,308
TOTAL: 98,737
*****************1992******************
Notchback (all) N/A
Hatchback (all) N/A
Convertible (all) 23,470
LX 5.0L 19,131
GT 20,445
All 5.0L 39,576
TOTAL: 79,280
*****************1993******************
Notchback (all) N/A
Hatchback (all) N/A
Convertible (all) 26,300
LX 5.0L 22,902
GT 26,101
Cobra 4,993
All 5.0L 54,103
Cobra R 107
TOTAL: 114,228

Technical
Off-Road H-pipesThis is a controversial topic. It usually boils down to a disagreement to what kind of effect off-road H-pipes have on low RPM torque.
The side that claims off-road H-pipes cost low end torque base reason that they do not provide enough back-pressure to effeciently scavenge, and thus a portion of the intake charge goes right out the exhaust port during overlap. Some also relate their "seat of the pants" experiences to back up their claims.

The side that claims off-road H-pipes increase (or at least don't cost any) low end torque reasons that the stock H-pipe (or even an aftermarket H-pipe with high-flow cats) is way too restrictive, and that headers have more of an effect on scavenging and tuning than any other exhaust component. They also relate personal experiences claiming their cars felt stronger at low RPM than before the off-road H-pipe.

Also, in a recent test by "Super Ford" magazine, the two off road H-pipes they tested outperformed the two high-flow cat H-pipes everywhere in the RPM band.

Also, off-road H-pipes are against federal regulations (as if that isn't a violation of the 10th Amendment) and may be prohibited in your state as well. So the legal risks of intalling them on a street driven car must be assesed along with the benefits of any kind of performance increase.

Computer ChipsMost people will tell you that computer chips to not work, or that your money is better spent doing other tweaks and mods.
Bascially, computer chips change certain calculations and look-up tables the EEC uses to set fuel delivery, spark advance, etc.

Buying a chip for a stock car for the sole purpose of increasing performance is a relatively expensive option. However, a custom chip burned for your particular setup can prove to be a worthwile investment. When you start tinkering with fuel delivery and recalibrating some sensors, then you might want to consider a chip, especially if you don't feel your car is running correctly.

How To Adjust TPS
"Muscle Mustangs & Fast Fords"
April 1993
The throttle position sensor is one of those things that falls into the category of "computer stuff" that makes a big difference and is easy to deal with, but average people like us would never know about. Without the proper adjustment, the throttle position sensor (TPS) will give the computer a false reading as to the exact throttle opening. A false reading will limit wide open throttle performance (something we definitely don't want). A voltage reading must be taken using a digital volt/ohmmeter (DVOM) with the Key On/Engine Off and with the Key On/Engine Running. A Radio Shack DVOM, part No. 22-185A, works well for this job.
The TPS is located directly on top of the throttle body and is adjusted by loosening the two phillips mounting screws and swiveling the sensor until the highest reading is found. It may be necessary to elongate the holes with a small file to achieve the desired reading.

The spec range for Key On is from .88 to 1.0 volt; shoot for the .97 to .99 volt. With the engine running, the voltage should be no higher than 1.05 volts.

Incorrect Throttle Position Sensor (TPS) voltage will result in reduced performance. The best way to take a TPS voltage reading is by using two safety pins through the wires coming from the sensor. The positive lead is attached to the green wire, while the negative goes to the black wire. Always ground the meter through the sensor's black wire. This gives a direct, and more accurate ground into the computer.

Basic Tune-up Recipe For EFI 302This is the first in a series of "recipes" for building up your EFI 302 with mods that are known to work and be reliable. It's a concept I ripped off from the Buick Turbo Regal guys.
This first recipe assumes a bone-stock Mustang. It does not call for the purchase of any aftermarket engine bolt-ons.

Synthetic lubes in engine, transmission and differential Change it & the filter (FL1-A) every 3000 miles.
Verify timing - 10 degrees advanced is stock It's not uncommon for a Mustang to come out of the factory with its initial timing set less than 10-degrees advanced.
Increased timing - around 14 degrees advanced (have to run premium)
Check voltage on TPS - adjust to 0.98V
Remove air-inlet silencer inside passenger fender
Replace air filter with K&N
Distilled water, coolant and Reline Water Wetter in radiator
Urethane bushings for rear suspension
This should get your '86-'93 302 running 97-99mph in the 1/4-mile while retaining stock drivability and appearance. Throttle response should be noticably improved. ET depends on your launch, shift points, and traction.

Street Performance Recipe For EFI 302This recipe involves steps you can take to give your Mustang noticably more grunt while retaining street drivability. In this part, we're concentrating on two things: exhaust (which is a known weak area on stock 3rd-gen EFI Mustangs), and accessory drag.
Complete the "Basic Tune-up Recipe"
Crome-moly weld-on subframe connectors
5-speed? Hurst, Pro 5.0 or B&M shifter
Exhaust - Any good cat-back system including H-pipe, flow tubes, mufflers, and tailpipes
1.7:1 ratio roller-tip rocker arms
Ring & Pinion gears - 3.55 or 3.73 for 5-speed; 3.73 for AOD
Underdrive pullies
If money is not an issue, send the upper & lower intake out to Extrude Hone for their Powerflow process
These mods should get your 5-speed Mustang running 99-102 in the 1/4-mile.

Resources
A. Websites
Mustang 5.0 LX Registry
1982-1993 Mustang GT Reistry Homepage
The OFFICIAL 20th Anniversary Mustang Website and Registry
The Corral
SVT Cobra Mustangs
5.0 Mailing List InfoPage
Mustang Works Online Magazine
Gateway 5.0 Mustang Club


Glossary

Credit
SVO engine info and production numbers provided by Carl Haines.


http://www.etconnect.com/gt/tech.htm

[SLOWZ]

HOLY CRAP! well that's alotta info, thanks!

[markstang]

we all need a way to get our post count up more. :D

[88Nightmare]

From the few months I've been on here, any question I've asked always got a load of answers from all different people, just trying to help out fellow mustang guys. All the guys and girls on here I've talked to were very nice and knowledgeable people, I'm sure they wouldn't mind helping you out either.

[SLOWZ]

Yeah I've known these guys for a couple years now, most of them atleast. They've always welcomed my F-body in the group. Even if i was the only one at the first track day Greg put together. Always nice group, and to be honest, nicer than the f-body guys as a whole!

Chris

[Greg@GLD]

I've always been treated failry well on MFBA. I think it comes down to individuals. I've known some Mustang people who act like well, you know, and I've met lots of F-body fans who would give you the shirt off their back.

[Tom]

I got this link from Mat's site awhile back. Lots of good tech. http://www.veryuseful.com/mustang/tech/engine/

[88Nightmare]

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[MAT88GT]

here's a cool one

http://www.mustangcentral.net/tech/diagrams/50enginepartsguide.jpg

I have some other nice reference pics here
http://www.mustangcentral.net/tech/diagrams/
They really come in handy

[90ramair]

Good find! Thanks for posting!! :beer: